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I’m reminded of Edgar Schein’s book on “Humble Inquiry,” which has probably eased and enabled number of fruitful conversations. I’ve had the opportunity to talke to a number of Trump supporters. I can say that they are not horrible, malevolent people. They’ve generally been men, one woman - a Jewish Rabbi who I would have easily mistaken for a real estate agent or a used car saleswoman.

On election day I had been in Philadelphia and stopped into a restaurant stop for a late lunch. A young latino couple dressed up in full MAGA wear was there. He saw my cross and said ,”you catholic?” I said “yes (instinctively).”

“You vote for Trump?”

“Ah No? I voted for the other one.”

“May I ask why?” I stopped for a second. I realized after all my conversations with Trumpers, not a single one had ever asked me a question about my own political beliefs. I was always the curious one.

“Sure. but you know, I admit, I’ve never had a Trump supporter ever ask me why I didn’t support him, so thank you for asking.” He seemed pleased by the compliment.

I shared with him my personal story. Trump had tried to closed down my church’s domestic violence shelter. He was building two luxury apartments next to the church and wanted all the poor people to be vacated. There was a phone call, and he didn’t know that the rector was on the call. He started using vulgar and unprofessional language to talk about the clients who were staying in the building. Of course, she had none of it, and expressed herself in a typically robust way. Then I mentioned Vera Coking. Then I mentioned the Central Park Five.

He said, “Yeah, I’d probably wouldn’t vote for him if I experienced that. but he will bring less crime, deport illegals, and stop inflation. So all that’s good.” Then he rushed off. There wasn’t going to be a debate at a rest stop, and I understand that nobody’s facts changes other people’s minds.

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